"What are they protesting about. Me? A mum of three kids?”: Katie Hopkins on standing by her views

Meeting Katie Hopkins, the self-proclaimed “biggest bitch in Britain”, I sit down expecting a dog with a bite. What I get instead is an overly-energetic puppy. I can't count the number of times she showers the room with 'darlings' and smiles.

Does she really believe the hot air that comes out of her mouth? “I don’t know what your point is”, she tells me. “Do you mean do I say it for my own amusement? I genuinely believe everything I say. It is my belief.”

Asked about her recent Ramadan tweet, she says she stands by it. “My belief is backed up statistically in the period of Ramadan. For those who are islamist extremists, we see a strike in violence during the period of Ramadan.”

And will she ever say sorry? “No.” Why not? She tells me that when she has upset people “I think it’s a pity they can’t articulate themselves coherently. Usually it’s like ‘I'm going to rape you with a machete’. It’s a pity they don’t have the language to argue back.” 

I’m not persuaded. I ask her about the fat people she has upset, and whether she ever feels guilty. "I think by putting on nearly four stone and losing it again to prove a point,” she says, swerving away from the question I’ve asked her, “I’ve probably done more than you in terms of trying to shift people’s thinking rather than just sitting and writing something.” Although Katie did manage to lose the weight, being fat or thin has made no difference to her-- she is still, sadly for us all, the same Katie Hopkins. "You and me have different opinions", she tells me, and here, at least, she is right.

It quickly becomes clear that Hopkins has to resort to rudeness in order to make a point. She talks about the protestors outside, asking “Do they look like they’ve showered? Dressed?”. I ask her if there anything she’d like to say to them. ‘’Yes. I wanted to come in and walk right past them. I’d like to have a conversation with them and ask if they’d like to think about having a shower, maybe this year... or if I can look on the back of their protest boards and... usually there’ll be something about climate change or something else.”

“I’d like to ask them what are they protesting about? Me? A mum of three kids?” I’m shocked by this sudden change of character, but hiding behind family is a move we might expect from a Donald Trump fan. Having fallen for Ivanka’s soft feminism as a shield for her father’s misogynistic views, Hopkins tells me “I love Trump. I love what Trump’s doing. I think if people watched him with Ivanka and his family he seems like a really good guy and a family man.”

After this, her other distorted views are quick to emerge. “I struggle greatly with feminists that I’ve seen”, she tells me. “Thinking about the pussy marches the day after the inauguration in washington… and being amongst those ladies, I love being amongst them, they were so thrilled to be with each other and I loved that… but I was disappointed with the reason they were there. They were there because they were women."

“When I said to one why are you here, [they said] 'because of climate change'. Another one said 'because Trump’s not my president'. [Another one said] 'because my vagina is made of steel'.”

I’m not convinced. When she sees this, she tells me, “It’s like ‘Jesus women, don’t be this bad, be good at what you’re doing, have one aim, get behind it, have power, have momentum.'” Nope, still not persuaded.

Hopkins certainly has a lot to say— most of it hyperbolic or nonsensical. She knows that she has to be extreme if she wants to keep people interested in her vacuous speech and her views which are (luckily) already being left behind. As the interview comes to a close she tells me, “I feel like I have some responsibility to keep saying what I say, even if I get locked up... and I think we could say that day might come”.

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